Timecop 2: The Berlin Decision

R 4.7
2003 1 hr 21 min Action , Science Fiction

20 years after a set of events, the Time Enforcement Commission (TEC), is still going strong. Now Brandon Miller a TEC operative, believes that they have a responsibility to change history hoping that the world will be better but Ryan Chan another Tec operative stops him but kills the woman he loves in the process.

  • Cast:
    Jason Scott Lee , Thomas Ian Griffith , Mary Page Keller , Tava Smiley , Wen Yann Shih , John Beck , J.J. Perry

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Reviews

Redwarmin
2003/09/30

This movie is the proof that the world is becoming a sick and dumb place

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StyleSk8r
2003/10/01

At first rather annoying in its heavy emphasis on reenactments, this movie ultimately proves fascinating, simply because the complicated, highly dramatic tale it tells still almost defies belief.

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Cooktopi
2003/10/02

The acting in this movie is really good.

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Ginger
2003/10/03

Very good movie overall, highly recommended. Most of the negative reviews don't have any merit and are all pollitically based. Give this movie a chance at least, and it might give you a different perspective.

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gridoon2018
2003/10/04

Although this belated sequel to the 1994 Van Damme hit "Timecop" was made for the DVD market, it is quite ambitious; it tries to be a philosophical martial arts / sci-fi combo - everything but the kitchen sink. The eternal question about time travel and Hitler is not just posed - it is a central plot (and title) element! You could even argue that the "villain" of the film is not really a villain at all; he operates under the theory that we should use time travel to prevent tragedies that we know are going to happen, while the "hero" believes that the "original" course of History must be preserved at all costs, because of the unforeseeable consequences of messing with it. Sure, there are holes in the script (like someone remembering an alternate timeline before it even happens), but all the crazy, brain-twisting time-and-space-hopping does keep you on your toes. And in the midst of it all, Jason Scott Lee gets a few chances to unleash his pretty forceful martial artistry. In fact, the weakest part of the movie is the ending, where everything comes down to a gratuitous martial arts showdown between Lee and Thomas Ian Griffith (complete with gratuitous shirt-ripping by Lee - though part of the audience certainly won't mind!). **1/2 out of 4.

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TBJCSKCNRRQTreviews
2003/10/05

This is pretty much the first Jason Scott Lee film I've seen. I say pretty much, because I have also seen Soldier, in which he plays the villain... but from what I've heard, it's not considered a Jason Scott Lee film. This, however, is. And if this is any indication of the quality of such films, I won't be seeing any of the others. Lee is basically passable as a martial arts artist... as the lead, he's awful. He gets in a fight with random no-name characters every few minutes of the film, probably because the script writer couldn't figure out how else to stretch out the film to the minimum required running time for a feature film. The villain is the only character with even a hint of personality, and aside from the fact that he's certifiably insane, he barely seems like a villain at all. The majority of the film is basically Lee chasing the villain through time... or maybe it's the other way around. I can't say for sure... and I definitely wouldn't watch it again to make sure. The effects are not completely horrible... but it's close. The title comes from the popular idea of using a time-machine to go and kill Hitler. Somehow, the film screws up that interesting idea as well. The plot is too complicated for its own good. The pacing is poor. I can't think of one positive thing to say about this film... I really can't. It's simply too formulaic and pointless. If only I had a time-machine, so I could go back and prevent this film from ever being made... no, never mind. I just hope as few fragile minds are exposed to this as possible. Listen to the negative reviewers. Avoid this turkey. I recommend this to fans of Lee, and no one else. If you're looking for a quality film... well, this isn't it. That's for sure. 1/10

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Steve Riley
2003/10/06

Time travel has always been my absolute favourite sci-fi sub-genre (with "post-apocalyptic" a close second) and so I actually shelled out my hard-earned cash last weekend to buy this movie.I got round to watching it tonight and am writing this review with mixed feelings. The title "The Berlin Decision" and the cover blurb led me to believe that most of the story would involve the main protagonists travelling back in time to Nazi Germany, with that era being the focus of the film. I figured that would be the basis for a very interesting and exciting movie. Unfortunately though, the Nazi Germany part of the film takes up only a few minutes at the beginning of the film, and after that - just like in the Van Damme original "Timecop" - the characters spend most of their time in the movie's present (2025) and recent past (2002) ... in other words almost the present day now, which to me seriously reduces a movie's "time travel" feel (the same major beef that I had with the vastly over-rated "Quantum Leap" TV show).I also thought that the whole thing was rather rushed - it tries to be too clever for its own good, and while it does throw up some interesting paradox questions, the plot moves at such a rapid pace that the viewer has little time to ponder them, and the whole thing just gets confusing and not a little messy in places. No attempt is made to explain or resolve any of the numerous paradoxes that arise, and in the end the best thing to do is just ignore them and try and get the best of the movie for what it is. Many potentially interesting questions arise that are left unanswered, such as what exactly was the "war" that resulted from the past being changed, and when Chan (the main character) arrives back in the alternate 2025 (in which his boss sports an eye patch and the female doctor a purple punk hairdo), what happens to his alternate self - the one who has presumably lived though the changed timeline? Is he somehow "displaced" by "our" Chan?? We never find out, and this fundamental question is simply ignored.That said, this film does have a few positives. The time travel sequences back to the Old West and Nazi Germany are fairly interesting, if a little short. There's a fairly gruesome bit where one of the timecops arrives back in the lab fused together with his younger self and hideously deformed - a result of him having made physical contact with himself (in a continuity nod to the original "Timecop" movie, this was described as being a potential problem for time travellers in that film). And some of the martial arts sequences are pretty good, if you like that sort of thing.Summary: Not great, but I've seen worse sequels and I'll probably dig this out again at some point and give it another go - maybe I've missed some of the subtleties.

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davideo-2
2003/10/07

STAR RATING:*****Unmissable****Very Good***Okay**You Could Go Out For A Meal Instead*Avoid At All CostsRyan Chan (Jason Scott Lee) is an enforcer for the Time Enforcement Commission which ensures those who attempt to alter the past to affect the present are caught and brought to trial.During one assignment transporting him back to 1940s Nazi Germany,his long time friend and fellow TE Officer Brandon Miller (Thomas Ian Griffith) suddenly decides to break the rules and tries to kill Hitler,causing Ryan to intervene and resulting in the death of Miller's girlfriend,who was in on the act too.He is incarcerated in a prison for the criminally insane,whilst Ryan is given a 30 day suspension.However,upon his release,Ryan learns of Miller's plot to eradicate the present,causing him to race back through time to catch him,as events build to Ryan learning shattering facts about how his past will affect his present.The original 1994 film,with Jean Claude Van Damme in the lead role,was a film that was ultimately destined for a sequel,even if it would be 10 years later and a smaller budget,straight to video effort.And,in Lee,the producers have found a worthy and credible successor to Van Damme.Griffith,who,many years ago was rather self righteously promoted on the front cover of his Excessive Force as the 90s successor to Steven Seagal and Chuck Norris,here appears in what must be his most high profile role in years (if not,surely in his whole career!) as the bad guy.He does have a rather engaging presence though,it must be said,and plays off well and has engaging chemistry with Lee in the hero and villain role respectively.Some of the action's nothing to sniff at,either.With both the lead stars being proficent martial arts experts,most of this revolves around some nicely chereographed fight scenes here and there,and in turn not disappointing in any way in that department.For it all,though,Timecop 2 is,as I stated,an avoidable experience,with it's disjointed,vaguely incoherent (and,sometimes it seems,none existent) storyline and ultra predictable script which offers little in the way of surprises.It's short running time means it can't be considered that much of an arguous ordeal,but,for it's duration,it strictly passes the time rather than going any way in making you think anyone should ever enforce it.**

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